Monday, June 18, 2012
Fasting Calendar and...
I sent an invite to sign up to fast a meal or more to pray for our New Church Start for those who have come to our meetings so far. If you want to be included subscribe to this blog and I will send you an invite to google calendar.
And below is one of the best link to info about fasting for those who are new or old to this spiritual discipline. But the main idea is to forgo your meals to focus and spend that time in prayer. It is not intended for starving or dieting....
http://www.cru.org/training-and-growth/devotional-life/personal-guide-to-fasting/index.htm
Monday, June 11, 2012
No Mtg this Wed 6/13 and...
We will not be meeting this Wed 6/13 at the office but will meet again at my house on Sunday @ 6pm again for Round #2 of Cookout, Dodgeball! and Prayer.
(2011 Dumont Road, Timonium, Md 21093)
Things you can bring: Salad, Dessert, Drinks
Also, here is the mtg schedule for the next several weeks:
1. No Mtg this Wed 6/13
2. Cookout/Mtg at my house 6/17 @ 6pm
3. Prayer Mtg 6/20 @ the office @ 8pm (101 E. 33rd Street, Baltimore Md, 21218)
4. No Mtg Wed 6/27
5. 7/4th Cookout, time and place TBA
(2011 Dumont Road, Timonium, Md 21093)
Things you can bring: Salad, Dessert, Drinks
Also, here is the mtg schedule for the next several weeks:
1. No Mtg this Wed 6/13
2. Cookout/Mtg at my house 6/17 @ 6pm
3. Prayer Mtg 6/20 @ the office @ 8pm (101 E. 33rd Street, Baltimore Md, 21218)
4. No Mtg Wed 6/27
5. 7/4th Cookout, time and place TBA
Summary from 6/10 Cookout Mtg & Prayer Requests
Here is a summary from our Sunday 6/10 Cookout Mtg:
1. Food
2. Volleyball
4. Fellowship/Prayer

Things we talked about:
1. Updates and some sharing - things are moving but moving in a snail's pace for now. I think these are one of the best times in church planting as we are still small, everyone knows each other, we are not busy with overwhelming number of tasks, there is still so much to hope for, and we can definitely see God working around us as He is bringing about this new church.
Psalm 127:1 "....Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain...."
2. We are getting contacted by several people and churches for possible partnerships to help with this new church start. Many times this is something that we have to spend time and effort to seek out. But for this church plant, we feel that God is spreading the word and bringing people/leaders around us. I am busy following up on these leads and mtg up with people. This is one of the prayer requests that these meetings will bare fruit.
3. We are also seeing more interest from people around us as we have been busy inviting and sharing with people in our communities concerning this new church.
4. We are still looking at Aug as our time for starting services for this New Church.
5. What we need to do: Keep Praying, Keep inviting and spreading the word, and Getting ourselves ready for July and beyond when we will start to really get busy.
Updated Prayer Requests:
a. Pray that all the people who are involved in the church start will be ready as July comes around. More specifically that we will be ready spiritually, emotionally and even physically be rested up.
b. Pray that we will be able to find space to start our Sunday services by Aug.
c. Pray that the meetings that we have for possible partnerships will bare fruit.
d. Pray that we will be protected against spiritual warfare that is and will be coming against us. And also that we will be more than conquerors in Christ
e. Pray that God will gather even more people for this plant, some to serve, some to lead, some to be part of the community, some to find Christ!
1. Food
2. Volleyball
3. Ritas
4. Fellowship/Prayer

Things we talked about:
1. Updates and some sharing - things are moving but moving in a snail's pace for now. I think these are one of the best times in church planting as we are still small, everyone knows each other, we are not busy with overwhelming number of tasks, there is still so much to hope for, and we can definitely see God working around us as He is bringing about this new church.
Psalm 127:1 "....Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain...."
2. We are getting contacted by several people and churches for possible partnerships to help with this new church start. Many times this is something that we have to spend time and effort to seek out. But for this church plant, we feel that God is spreading the word and bringing people/leaders around us. I am busy following up on these leads and mtg up with people. This is one of the prayer requests that these meetings will bare fruit.
3. We are also seeing more interest from people around us as we have been busy inviting and sharing with people in our communities concerning this new church.
4. We are still looking at Aug as our time for starting services for this New Church.
5. What we need to do: Keep Praying, Keep inviting and spreading the word, and Getting ourselves ready for July and beyond when we will start to really get busy.
Updated Prayer Requests:
a. Pray that all the people who are involved in the church start will be ready as July comes around. More specifically that we will be ready spiritually, emotionally and even physically be rested up.
b. Pray that we will be able to find space to start our Sunday services by Aug.
c. Pray that the meetings that we have for possible partnerships will bare fruit.
d. Pray that we will be protected against spiritual warfare that is and will be coming against us. And also that we will be more than conquerors in Christ
e. Pray that God will gather even more people for this plant, some to serve, some to lead, some to be part of the community, some to find Christ!
Tuesday, June 5, 2012
6/6 Dinner mtg at PR, postponed..
The dinner mtg that is suppose to happen on 6/6 has been postponed to Sunday 6/10 @ 6pm. Still at PR's house:
2011 Dumont Road
Timonium, Md 21093
You can bring a salad, dessert or drinks.... thanks
2011 Dumont Road
Timonium, Md 21093
You can bring a salad, dessert or drinks.... thanks
5/30 Mtg Summary
God wants us to understand the moment.
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Dr Martin Lloyd Jones – "Discerning the Times"
o
When you see the clouds you know that the rain’s
coming
o
A lot of times when we look at God, we look at
God and things He does with such mystery and who knows what God’s going to do.
What’s interesting is that when Jesus talks about that passage about the
clouds, what Jesus was trying to tell people was that a lot of times discerning
God is not that complicated and mysterious.
o
Instead of asking God what are you up to, just
try to understand where you are and look around and see what God is doing around you.
o
As time is passing by, I was wonder what God is up
to. As I asked that question I started to think about what is it that I see right
now. We have a good dozen people who are committed and that’s what God has done
already. That’s not something that has happen by accident. It’s amazing how God gathers people
(different combinations/groups of people). And then we have these meetings and
at times I wonder if we really need these meetings. Well we’re doing these meetings and
God orchestrated that – He wants us to gather and pray and share our lives
together and not worry about what are we going to do in September. If I were to
explain to you what God’s will is, this is it. Doesn’t mean it won’t change
next week. What we need to focus on is how can we make the best of where we are and what we have
right now and "what is it that God wants me to learn through this...?"
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Zachariah 4:10
o
10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, ....."
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Really enjoy this time. It is a special time.
When things start going, it’s going to be hectic with so many things to do.
These days are very special in that sense. No doubt God is up to something and
will do something. We’re just going for that ride and the train will take off.
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Phil asked if we will go forward if this is
the only group we have. I said no probably not. I’m thinking this is not why
God is starting another church for SSM grads. I feel like we are 1/3 the way
there in terms of gathering people. As I’m praying, different things have
happened. (1) met with pastors in the area. They talked about ways they can
help. Their churches are not big (60-80 people) but they are willing to help.
(2) Mike and Vicky at our church were sharing there’s a church plant going on in Ann
Arundel/Howard County for the past 5 years and they might be interested in joining us if we started this church. They have some families and a group of youth who they have been reaching out to for the past several years...We’re
not sure if it will all work out, but it’s exciting how God is opening up doors.
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Follow up with people that God puts on your
heart. (1)There are people that can be part of the church plant (2) people who
can attend (3) and people you are always evangelizing to. It’s like an
evangelism prayer list expanded. Follow-up on leads. Knocking on doors. Hopefully
through these leads the different populations will come.
Worship Space
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By August, hopefully we’ll find a place of
worship.
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Will need to do a service and there might be
people in our church now that might not fit with SSM and The Light. Also people
we are reaching out to won’t wait forever for the plant.
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PR isn’t the only one looking for a space.
There are others in the Howard County area helping to look for a worship space.
SSM Serving
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How much can you serve at SSM?
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Don’t know exactly how much but one thing
definite is at minimal you will have to participate at the Sunday service at
the new plant which will most likely be a morning service. But if that grows
there will be more to do.
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It’s safe to commit to another ministry that
will require up to 2-3 nights at SSM.
o
Ex: dship (night of dship, night of following
up with members)
o
You don’t want something that will require 4
nights out – takes too much time.
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Need to be creative so you don’t do 5 nights
of ministry – that’s when you burn out
o
Want ministry at FOUR NIGHTS MAX (three is
ideal)
o
How to go from 5 to 4 nights – think about
things you can combine and streamline
o
Can meet with people early in the evening or
meet with people before dship, etc
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Spring of next year, might be 3 nights of
church plant activity
Inventory
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In July we’ll need to go through the Methodist
Church and see what equipment we have and what works (most likely a Saturday or
Sunday)
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See if we need to buy anything to get the
service going (we’d like to minimize the buying)
Do you have things in mind in terms of how you want to spend the
time during these meetings?
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Time for us to get to know each other better
(eating together)
How to pray for this (church plant)
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Yourself – asking God why am I a part of this
plant/to what capacity do you want me involved
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With things happening with the church plant –
the leads PR gives us, needing a place in August, list of ministry needs, money,
more people
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Spiritual aspect – warfare, how God is moving,
bigger picture things, what God is trying to do, how He’s guiding the overall
plant
o
Also pray for each person in this group and
those that are missing
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Where we all are right now is normal. People want to see things
more tangible to hold on to before they get involved. It will come. I know that
this is where your faith kicks in. You have to have faith, believe what God has
in mind and keep pressing toward that. We are here because we’ve had enough
confirmation to be here. We need to press forward and things will be clear.
Don’t make any final decisions until things do become clear. Some people bail
midway, but wait until things are clear to know for sure if you want to bail or
not.
Next meeting at PR’s (June 6, between 6:30 and 7pm)
5/23 Mtg Summary
1.
What will this church look like? (the timeline, some detail
pictures, focus, people, etc)
- Once again this plant is not something really new to our network. It is one of the plants that we have always talked about and tried two other times. We knew from the beginning that we will need a home/base/flagship church that will be the center of all the works of Grace Life. And that in the city, it would hard to have a church like that...thus, we have always looked to the nearby suburbs where God would lead us to start a church. I believe this is such a time.
Thus, when we think about the focus and the purpose of this church we would have to look outside the city limits where people are less transient. So far, Catonsville and Elkridge have come into our view as we see open doors of opportunity. We have some people in our church who are presently located there, we have Grace Lifers from the past who live in that area, we have possible partnerships that we can start looking into, possible funding opportunities, I have other contacts through past minitry involvements in that area, etc. At one point Federal Hill looked really promising, but now it seems less likely as some of the leads have not worked out and the limitations of being in that area are great.
- TIMELINE: we have 3 months if we want to launch in September.
Most of the time, when people start looking for a new church it is in the fall and early part of new year like Feb. So those are good months to launch a new church. If we are not ready to officially launch the new church then we will still hold sunday services starting from Sept. and have an official launch by Feb.
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Need a place to worship, people, funding – then we can have a
service. We still need a critical mass of
people, we can have a closed service – not open to the public but you can
invite the people that you know. Gives you the freedom to train up people and
plan more ministry. So far we have about a dozen people who are committed to the plant to do more than just be attenders. We would like to get to a place where we have about three dozen people committed to the plant and few more who are going to be faithful members.
2.
Why should I be part of this church from the start?
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Not everyone gets this opportunity/experience. Esp if you have a
calling in ministry it gives you an unique opportunity to learn a lot about ministry from the ground up. If you want to be a missionary, church planting will
be a great experience. You will also grow because things are so dynamic. Things
move a lot and change a lot. Rarely at a static state. You experience a lot of
breakthrough and prayers answers (like a mission trip). A lot of community
aspect – starts small at the beginning and everyone is focused on the mission. Everyone
is contributing and tithing, etc. It is like being on an extended mission's trip.
3. How
can I get involved, what can I do to serve, and what are some expectations
if I say, “I
do?” You can look below at some of hte ministry needs that we will have right away. One of the reasons why we would like to have more people involved is to limit the burnout that the core group often experiences in a church planting context. The core group typically does all the ministry, all the decision making, all the follow up, all the outreach etc. In this new church start we would like to have enough people so that we can all share the responsibility/ministry so that we are not out every night doing ministry or in meetings. So perhaps just couple nights a week. Some will serve in the Leadership Team and not serve as a small group leader. Some will serve as a small group leader and not be a worship leader at the same time. IN this way I am hoping that people will be able to serve more long term and enjoy the blessing of serving the Lord.
4.
Where would the funding come from?
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We would like to raise about 100K a year for 3 yrs. That seems like a lot of money but it is very minimal in terms of what it usually costs to plant a church in US. I am close to securing about 20k of that already. Pray that God will provide for this plant. We will also be doing some fundraising and we will get help from our SBC friends.
5. Where
is it going to be located?
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Look at the notes under the first question and PRAY ABOUT LOCATION. We will need to make a decision within a month because it is one of the reasons why some people are having a hard time committing to this new church work.
6.
How is this church pant going to be different than the other ones that Grace
Life has done?
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We would like to get a larger pool of people to start with. We would like to start with mostly working adults and married couples/families. We are less pressure to do this plant than other ones that we have done because in the past the survival of the network was at stake or because it was our first plant . But this time, we are much more dependant on God and waiting on Him to work. We really don't have to force things or try to move it faster than it needs to be...
7. What
would be expected from those who serve in Leadership Team/Ministry Leaders?
- Avg one meeting a week for those serving on the Leadership Team. For ministry leaders like small group leaders, two evenings a week.
8.
The importance of this church.
-- I can't stress enough the importance of this plant and the potential that it has. This church could really be the home base for not only the ministry that we will continue to do and plant churches here in US but all the future work that we are thinking about doing in South America, esp Peru.
Ministry Needs:
Leadership Team: people who have had
experience in ministry including interns and vstaff
Sunday Service:
Sunday Service:
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Worship Team/Leaders
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Media
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Fellowship
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Greeters/Newcomers
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Setup Team
Prayer:
prayer chain or prayer network
Small Groups (2): one in the city and one outside of the city
Small Groups (2): one in the city and one outside of the city
Children’s
Ministry
Nursery
From
this point on we want weekly prayer meetings.
1. Spread the
word about keeping up with the church plant. At least to keep praying. Go to
the blog.
2. When you
meet with people, keep in mind 2 groups – group that can serve and be part of this plant and a group that will be
visitors/attendors/members.
3. Weekly
meetings – Wed nights 8pm (1-2 hours)
Prayer and
worship in addition to training on some weeks...
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